Once the situation eases a bit there will be tangible progress to be seen.. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. Outbreak of World War One. "They had a hard life, but they were fed and looked after. Below are just some of our members who have served at HMS Ganges. Im here as my Son (15) wants to join the RN - Wellbeck route AIB soon. attempted to climb to the top of the mast, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Aboriginal spears taken in 1770 to return to Sydney, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart. LEADING SEAMAN Served from 1961 - 1970 Served in HMS Ganges. A Proceeds of Crime Act hearing is due to take place at Portsmouth Crown Court on 23 January. Some 100 boy-sailors were in the canteen, chewing and chattering; clattering knives forks and spoons against plates and bowls. "I remember another of the Ganges boys, they were talking to a visitor at the museum, and she said 'it was quite brutal, wasn't it? I came across a clip on youtube that really saddened me and it tells its own story about the UK as it is now and the real fact that such things as pride, standards etc have long been lost and decay and neglect are the order of the day, I do not need to walk very far from my home to see with my own eyes the evidence all around me. It would not be an exaggeration to say not one of us had the slightest idea of what lay in store for the next year. (LogOut/ Work on the scheme, which would see 285 new homes, a 60-bed nursing home, a large retail space and areas for medical services, will not be started until a spine road through the site, which will take the bulk of construction traffic away from main roads, is built. contact the editor here. Each evening after we had cleaned the mess, we took everything out of the locker rolled each item into a nine-inch sausage, tied white tape around both ends, and then placed every item on a blanket. CPO (OPS) (EW) Served from 1966 - 1991 Served in HMS Ganges. The showers usually took place at the crack of dawn, summer or winter we ran from the barrack towel around our waist to the showers. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were. Helpful. http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/hms-ganges-swimming-pool-shotley-may-2015.t96792, Anniversary Toast - HMS RALEIGH 25th Oct 2009, Telegraph: "Captain Peter Grindal Obituary", Future Ford vehicles could repossess themselves, 10 myths told by Covid 'experts' now debunked. Now i know why! Captain Tremlett, the Senior Officer of training ships, was ordered to investigate the situation and reported that Commander Stevens 'had given punishments . Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Abuse Details. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). To get to the platform you would climb out over the Devil's Elbow, legs dangling in the air, only your grip keeping you from certain death. Reaching high into the sunlit sky stood the mast; its yardarms spread wide like a giant crucifix. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. The boy was made lower his trousers, but kept is underpants on, he was made to bend over a chair. [1] He was an Electricians Mate Class 1 and served in, 12/03/35-09/01/36 HMS Ganges. Many spars are believed to have come from this ship too. All thanks to my Instructor CMEM LUCKENS . The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Ganges Museum is located at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, in what was the Enright Block, on the foreshore of the former H.M.S. 1976. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . I would imagine it will be a number of years before we see the final product but Ive seen first hand how quickly they can actually make progress once the builders get going. While I probably believed the stories, I was still determined to quality for my chain. the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. 1907. A Gannett Company. His fellow recruit, Phil Bridge, said it was "a sad day, because it means a lot to us", but he was looking forward to a restored mast being returned. During the third disastrous week, it spent so much time on the deck I thought I might as well leave it there! It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. Read about our approach to external linking. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. Crowned on June 2, 1953, at the age of 25, Elizabeth II went on to have the longest reign for a British queen. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. "Most of what was on the site went to the naval museum in Portsmouth, but we have the honours board and figurehead from the original ship. We caught up with Jim Dines, Director of TS Rigging, whose team. If not, you would do it repeatedly, until you dropped dead if necessary. The Admiralty decided that the shore base should bear the name of the original training ship, HMS Ganges. Well this seems a good time to see if this site works properly. Our abuse contact API returns data containing information belonging to the abuse contact of every IP address on the Internet. He would lay on the number of cuts prescribed, each cut raised a welt on the boys buttocks. At about 60 feet was the Devil's Elbow, the most dangerous and frightening part. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. . Steve Tarr. 1914. However, in the meantime we were still at the mercy of our instructors. An appeal by Woolverstone Parish Council was turned down two years later. ', and he replied that it was the first time he had a warm bed, three hot meals a day, and a roof over his head that didn't leak. This gallery has been set up as a home for images that have not so far been added to the Museums Official Website https://www.hmsgangesmuseum.com/ Royal Navy 238217 Boy 1st Class HMS Ganges II. The Royal Navy training mast in Shotley Gate, pictured in 1936, was erected in 1907, A photograph of the base taken sometime in the 1950s (left), with recruits on the mast in 1937, with one recruit just about visible near the very top, John Youngman said his training at the site stood him in good stead for the rest of his life, Warning: Third party content may contain adverts, A pupil band from The Royal Hospital School performed at the event, It is expected to take at least a year to restore the mast at the tip of the Shotley peninsula, across the water from Felixstowe and Harwich. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. It was hard, often . Babergh District councillor Ganges, Derek Davis, said: From my own personal perspective I have seen how closely our officers and our planning team have worked with the owners of the site and I can imagine that once the lockdown is over and the guys get started, progress will be made very quickly. Welcome to our next documentary, investigating the decaying remains and iconic abandoned swimming pool of HMS Ganges Royal Naval training school, as well as . After initial training we were marched from the training camp. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's 1903. Didn't like it, there are better ways of teaching than violence, but it hardened me up and made me self disciplined. "A lot of the boys came from foster homes, or Barnardos. Looking pretty in candy-striped pyjama bottoms and naked chests, we were ordered across the parade ground, through the snow and ice, to the 'heads', that grown-up potty land, which had neither doors nor partitions around the bowls for privacy, to partake in our morning ablutions, a most embarrassing experience. www.amazon.co.uk/H-m-S-Ganges-Dozen/dp/0906418003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269273975&sr=1-1, www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=134/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html, www.veterans-uk.info/vets_badge/vets_badge.htm. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. Shotley Marina, Shotley Gate, Ipswich, IP9 1QJ. Boys were permitted to march through the streets of Ipswich with bayonets fixed. Like lots of other boys I ran away from home when I was 14 yrs old and joined the Royal Navy as a Boy Seaman 2nd class. Read about our approach to external linking. My heart sank and my elation evaporated as I desperately tried to quash all fears of my body falling from the Devil's Elbow. It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. So as I have said already, we kept our heads down aiming for that final day when wed be drafted to a ship. A Gannett Company. Tony Hayden. When the Gunnery Instructor was finally satisfied, you put the lot back in your locker as before. We are the largest and fastest growing community of UK forces veterans on the web with over 500,000 members! the top rung of a six foot ladder is about my limit! We were ushered in as a group of naked boys and told to wash thoroughly. This site uses cookies. The pipe (whistle) was used aboard ship for passing orders and instructions. Mast erected using the foremast of HMS Cordelia, which was broken up 1904. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. 1906. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. Rumour had it many years ago a boy did fall, bouncing off the safety net and through the Post Office roof. I took a bowl and ate the lot. Early in 1940 Admiralty decided to close Ganges as a Boys Training Establishment and in April it became a Hostilities Only Training Establishment. Maybe we boxed each other in the Shotley annexe! Down the road we proudly thundered, the first time any of us had seen the outside words since the day of our arrival. This page is dedicated to the memory of Tony whose commitment to the Royal Navy and especially HMS Ganges was unlimited. Read about our approach to external linking. I was at Ganges in 1955 and went to visit Shotley in 2005 and was surprised to see police signs near the old swimming baths. My instructors were Nobby Clarke and Ted Roe. Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. Joined Ganges Feb '61..went through the same as everyone else. 2023 BBC. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Standing at 143ft, the mast is made up of three main parts; the main 75ft mast came from HMS Cordelia, a steam corvette built in Portsmouth, the top mast of 47.5 ft wooden ruffle box from HMS Agincourt, which was renamed HMS Boscawen, and then Ganges II. HMS Ganges is a little bit different though, because they have to get the spine road in first and do some prep work. HMS Ganges (1821) This page summarises records created by this Organisation The summary includes a brief description of the collection (s) (usually including the covering dates of the. Please Login or Register. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. The training was tough, brutal at times, yet many of those who came through remember HMS Ganges, at Shotley Gate, with a certain fondness. Im quite sure few if any boys receiving cuts ever thought to run away again. The rest of the class were not pleased to suffer because of one boys stupidity and sometimes made a cruel point of letting the culprit know. The greatest fear was of messing up, this meant the whole class was punished. Today in Naval History - Naval / Maritime Events in History 13 March 1653 - Death of Simon de Vlieger (c. 1601, Rotterdam - buried 13 March 1653, Weesp) Simon de Vlieger (c. 1601, Rotterdam - buried 13 March 1653, Weesp) was a Dutch designer, draughtsman, and painter, most famous for. It. The cinemas would be packed with rows of Ganges boys in uniform and the caf at the corner of St Stephen's Lane would sell them many cups of tea as they waited for their bus back to Shotley. While the training ship was originally based in Cornwall, she was moved to Harwich, and then Shotley in the 1890s, in order to be closer to a centre of population. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). Editors' Code of Practice. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please The number of air raids at Shotley began to increase dramatically and its ratings soon had to go to the air . . It may not display this or other websites correctly. First time ever looking at any RN sights. Ganges will for ever be the legacy of every young boy who passed through those distant gates to emerge as a sailor and a man. Real posh supercilious bastard. CMEM (M) Served from 1972 - 1987 Served in HMS Ganges. Mr Jones also offered reassurance around the historic mast, despite fears about its dilapidated state. While I was going through the various calls I felt his hand slipping up the back of my shorts. 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