You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. Current employees would be welcone to come along, otherwise there are many good and talented Americans looking for work. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. Make the bill political kryptonite. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. Pretty small and isolated country town. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Its not just selling, genius. Youve just restated Bill Rugers justification for selling out gun-rights so he could keep his company viable. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. As the market changes so does our pricing. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? I hear you on that Ruger. Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. It may not even pass the House. Well, not basically, they did. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. it The licensing fee? Rock River LAR-8 .308. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Now I wish I had not. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:01 AM EST. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). If you know youre going to lose 50% off sticker driving something new off the lot, odds are you keep looking. Done. Henry and Ruger for the win. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. Damage done. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. No Springfield guns for me. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. This is a digital day/night scope. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. Never, ever. This isnt really about the law itself. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Or in the General Assembly. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. Asit should. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. No they dont. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. Yuge. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. So I have to ask. The Ruger is berween $6-700. People Of The Gun have long memories. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. Customer service beyond any reproach. Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. AR-15 Parts. Magpul moved to WY. Kahr moved out of NY. If discounted to $0, maybe. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Of course there will be others that benefit as well. This is income tax refund time. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. A corrupt Illinois politician. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. This just proves that point. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber (Rock River Arms)[14] or the ArmaLite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm NATO and .223 Remington equally well. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Since 2002. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. Compare. Its a freakin disaster. See below for more information. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. Hugely disappointing. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? My time stinks apparently. You have entered an incorrect email address! Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Except they are both under different ownership today. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Companies move all the time. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Absolutely love them. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. The Henry ri fle was made by the New Haven Ar ms Company. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. So I went on a buying spree. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. Post interesting results everywhere. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. Pick something and follow it. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Im not ordering anything Springfield. He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. No offense meant, I was just pointing out that Springfield Armory has no connection to the city of Springfield Illinois. Sellouts. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). Some would disagree. Lots of work. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. No more. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. How is he still employed? Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. I dont think youre using that word right. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. I live in Illinois. Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Its not difficult. Better sell that RRA while you still can. And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Your Price: $744.13. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Are they doing town halls? AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. Most places, its still over $1500. Web50%. No more. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. This companys name is Mudd. PERIOD. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. We feel that IFMAs These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? Performance Tuned. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. If RRA didnt know about this and, as a sign of their disgust, drops their funding and membership in the trade group youd still hold them accountable? I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. Now they will pay the price. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. I have a BM-59 kit that still needs to be built. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. From what I gathered from this article and all the information I viewed about this organization its hard to say just how much control SA and RRA has over the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. That is sooo repetitious! But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. F them. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. CZ-75/85 are great guns. Search Ruger anti gun. Audits of the players, including the lobbyist and relevant politicians, and FOIAs or something for pending investigations against all the same could prove enlightening. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. I agree. The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. in some cases they are just as passionate about their brands. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Good luck with that RRA. Henry? 3/18/2013. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. 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