0 I rifle, the No. A specific chapter in the new 'Lee-Enfield Rifles' update of the 1992 'Lee-Enfield Story' is devoted to Serial Numbers. The rifle was dated 1942 and a lot of the No 4 and some No 1 SMLEs issued to South Africa was eventually sold to the SAP agencies then onto the surplus market. Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information Buy Now Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. When the No4T was conceived the cheek piece was transferred / continued. 0000002083 00000 n If the * on the receiver ring was on a No.1, it would mean the action had 'pitting or rust'. It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an "X" mark on the upper left flat on top of the left fore end that holds the receiver wall. The factory site was razed to accommodate (apartment) flats in the mid-1980s. "S" inside a square The No. III (substitute) scabbard with parallel sides and oval frog stud. The number actually produced is believed to be 250,000. A few were parkerized at the Long Branch factory later in the war, but these examples are few and far between. 4 Mk. It was a simplified version of the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield rifle that served the Empire so well in the first unpleasantness. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. Along with parts replacement and service programs. Mazak is, by far, the most common, followed by blued steel. However, these scabbards are encountered far too frequently for only 25,000 to have been made. The front curved shape of the cheek piece was prone to splitting so finger inserts and repairs are often seen hear to keep the rifle working. The markings in the other photos are not mentioned, except the '2' on the bolt head, which is its size (there being several sizes available to get the head space right). 4 Mk. Danish Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Green Canvas Sling HTK. The rifle pictured here is a No. Vanden Plas (Eng) 1923 Ltd. of Kingsbury Rd., London produced approximately 950,000 Mk. Photo to follow, when I can work out how to post one. The bayonet exhibits better finishing than most British No. The prefixes were assigned as follows: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, L, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T ,U, V, W, Y ,Y, Z, AA, AB, AC. %%EOF According to Skennerton, 25,000 experimental MkII scabbards were manufactured by the Franco-British Electrical Company, Tempel Park, Hurley. The box label indicates that these were packed November 1963, at the 5th Storage Depot. In correspondence, Anthony Carter indicated that Brades was the maker of many of the entrenching tools. 1 Mk. 1 Mk. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. VNS mark represents "Viners Ltd. Sheffield, England" a subcontractor of Enfield parts. he! 4 bayonets. by The_Enigma 29 Mar 2012, 15:46, Post Following World War II, Fazakerley was the only factory that continued manufacturing the Enfield No. WIth the No4T there are still a couple of ways to do this - long length of either sling forward or rearward - depending on your stature and preference for adjustment. 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band holding the buttstock to the receiver assembly: (1) "1944" (with the 4 overstriking what. Dispersal Codes begin with a letter denoting the general location (N=north, M=middle, and S= south), followed by up to three digits. on Oct 26, 2019. . This article, "Exploded View: Lee-Enfield No. Home Articles Guns & Parts Suppressors Optics & Thermals Ammunition Gear News & Opinion Columns Museums & Factory Tours ID Guides Interviews Event Coverage Articles by Issue Volume 1 V1N1 (Oct 1997) V1N2 (Nov 1997) V1N3 (Dec 1997) V1N4 (Jan 1998) lightly-struck "s" The No. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). Anyone got a pic of that area on a Long Branch? Other Nations Service and Replacement - Differing Nations have taken equipment from Great Britain and her colonies over the decades for frontline, secondary and domestic / internal service - Such as Italy and Holland immediately after WW2 - Israel and South Africa in the 1950s and 1960s India and Pakistan have kept their Lee Enfield's up and in reserve until a few years ago. 210.00. I scabbard may have been made in the USA, given the lack of any maker's or proof marks. The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". . The most common of these were: XP was used for the Shortened and Lightened Australian Lithgow (No6 Jungle Carbine) rifles, A was used for No1 MkVI trail rifles, BS was used on the British No7 small bore rifles, and T1 for the No5 small bore rifles. The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. Thank you for the welcome. (45mm.) But the persistent zero problem became an annoyance. These were supplied to the British under the Lend-Lease Act. No4 Mk1 - DP - A safety lesson 2012: A DP marked rifle fired without first being completely dismantled or inspected after purchase by a new owner. II* bayonets. There were basic diagrams and instructions in the various Sniping training pamphlets, however I wanted to add a little more description and variation (with photos. No.4 MK1 Buttplate With Trap LE4045 $9.00 1 review (s) Lee Enfield # 1 MK 3 Canvas Rifle Cover (Case) With Sling Carry Strap, WWII Pattern LE3092 Made from heavy canvas material, this gun case was used for the Enfield #1 MKIII and #1 MKIV rifles. The "circle-PSK" marking is somewhat of a mystery and is seldom encountered. For the rifles produced in North America, American black walnut was consistently used, with birch used as a substitute when walnut was not available. The No. 4Mk. Parker Hale PH5DC Lee Enfield No4 rear sight and PH 'FS2A' foresight. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. Once the initial range of numbers was maxed out a letter prefix was added and the numbering began again. A round frog stud is brazed to the body. II*, with approximately 161,026 reported produced, during 19421943. by verdenpark 30 Mar 2012, 08:34, Post II* bayonet has Arabic markings on the socket. The last year observed on these sights using the SM mark is 1943 as per the right hand example, then the S69 code is used - again on major components (sight ladder (top left of the face), cursor (left side), elevation screw (top) and elevations screw nut (back). All Enfield Rifles below are proofed and shoot ready. SMLE rifle manufacturers were given no serial ranges to begin or end production with, so it is possible that two rifles may exist with the same serial number produced at different factories. 0000002206 00000 n The bayonets are coated with mineral oil (grease), in a waxed "primary pack" paper wrapper. II* bayonets from 19421945. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) The new rifle was well regarded by the troops receiving them. The No. Canadian Arsenals produced a run of approximately 5,000 No. Four firms produced the No. deeply-struck "s" Markings: The left side of the stock collar is marked "14C2827 / S /1942" and with a flaming bomb proof. 4Mk. When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. 4 rifles and bayonets after Belgium was liberated in September 1944. 4 (T) 303 BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE 1944 . When these rifles were refurbished in the factory, they were given a second black oxidizing or they were painted with a matte or semigloss black paint in the spots where the original finish had worn off. 769 23 Lee-Enfield No. Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. LEE ENFIELD NO. 0000000756 00000 n Date of Manuf: In practice and service, the size, position and shape of the cheekpiece was altered to suite the needs of the snipe that the rifle was designated for - these are an interesting study within themselves. Armourers would not make a buttstock with S51 for spare parts. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The other details such as maker, model, and FTR are on the left side of the receiver, either very lightly stamped, or engraved with an electric pencil. Quote Reply Topic: No4 Mk1* identification help . The No. After wrapping the point, this bayonet would have been oiled and sealed in clear plastic. The Indians did us no favors scrubbing & remarking as they did. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. Firing mechanism is Enfield pull cocker type, with left side serrated safety lever. The first photo below is of a Hollands installed cheek piece on a 1944 scopeless rifle - its position, form and fit is per the as-new standard. Other makers welded the spike to the socket. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Exploded View: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III, 'A Grisly Business:' Australias Lee-Enfield Sniper Rifle, Reviving An Enfield: RTIs Imported No. I believe the number " 1 xxxx" means it was manufactured at Maltby. According to Skennerton, more than 2 million Mk. Our Price: 295.00: Gunner Points: 29: Stock Info: 1 In Stock: Parker Hale 8/53 Lee Enfield No4 rear sight (PH1) . 4Mk. You're probably going to have to "infer" its origins from things like proof marks. The volume of serial number inquiries has prompted me to fashion this page together and try and explain how best to identify a particular rifles manufacturer. [35] I with the broad-lipped steel mouthpiece. You can build more Battery Ammo and .303 at the Chem bench. No4 rifles were given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no set serial blocks. broad arrow proofmark 1943" over "CAT. 4 Mk. I (T) and No. These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. You are using an out of date browser. Ltd. (pictured at left) Rifles are in good to very good original condition and ready to fire. Savage rear micrometer sights have some unique machining features in the battle peep - which will be missing on the T format versions. 2 bids. by verdenpark 23 Mar 2012, 07:54, Post The No. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. The socket was forged by Viners Ltd. Based on serial numbers observed, approximately 35,000 No. British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. 4 Mark I rifle was adopted on Nov. 15, 1939. Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. Our Price: 195.00: Gunner Points: 19: Stock Info: Out Of Stock: CR322 LE4 Sling swivel. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. The Parker HAle PH215 series triangular sling swivel is "High Tower" and will have the triangle clear the trigger housing loop to spin 360 degrees - these are also typically bright blued or blacked. . Fazakerley also continued to produce the rifle for foreign contracts after the war. 4Mk. 772 0 obj<>stream Though, looking at the photos, it could mean the same. 4 mm. I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. not 8.8 Barrel length is 25 1/4 inches, not 25 2 inches Don(B3)RAOC Primary Pack. The Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947 and replaced the Long Branch trademark used during the Second World War. II* socket bayonet was used in Iraq during the Second World War and by the Iraqi Army after the end of British occupation in 1947. This indicates the length of the bolt head with the larger numbers being the longer bolt heads. 4 Mk 1* (T) rifle in .303 British made by Savage in 1942. II: Singer in Scotland, the Savage Stevens Co. in the USA, and Long Branch in Canada. 1 scabbards. 4 Mk. III rifle also began to take hold, different mounting systems were tried. The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. Scabbard makers included: This uncommon scabbard has parallel sides and is made of very lightweight steel tubing. 4 bayonet evolved (or devolved), with each generation becoming more crude and cheaper to manufacture. This lowered costs and allowed manufacture by subcontractors. Here's a picture of a maltby 1943 with a similar 'M' as yours, before the 1943: So a genuine Savage rear sight converted to T format by H&H is possible on an early 1941 converted and war time used rifle and on a late 1945 scopeless rifles and in between when added to BSA rifles that had the L flip sight from the factory - Savage provided a lot of micrometer sights for this purpose. What makes this particular Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.2 an 'obscure' object of desire: it's in abso-fricking-lutely 100% condition. These rifles can often be identified by the stacking hook welded to the upper band. 4 socket bayonets produced. Some DP markings on non load bearing parts. This means Royal Ordance Factory Fazakerly, Factory Through Repair, 1949. The size, position and style of font are particular to the Hollands application. 5 mm. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. Chambering is .303 British caliber, 7.7 x 56mm. The demand of new ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle's has risen 8 units over the past 12 months. A quantity of No. I markings were reminiscent of how Pattern 1907 bayonets were marked, with the royal cypher, type, and maker. There is no US PROPERTY stamped into the top angle of the receiver as well. The other makers were much less prolific. He also indicated that P.S.S. Thanks. The securing tab retained the No. 4 Mk. Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Sniper Rifle (reproduction). I'm currently working on restoring a New Zealand, a Canadian and a German/Greek Enfield. 0000013061 00000 n Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. With Hitler's war machine on the move, the British needed an accurate, mass-production rifle. Longbranch No. The socket is fabricated by welding together seven sheet steel stampings, eliminating the socket forging process altogether. 4Mk. No idea what it means on a No.4. The scabbard is a Mk. The "S" was added to indicate the need for this re-zeroing as a subsequent step. 0000004628 00000 n One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. 4 spike bayonet. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. Similarly Savage rifles that are genuine and completed to a fully scoped "T" are rare and early. 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