The leather for the grip will be cut into washers, 1/8 inch in thickness. Camillus Keto Folding Knife $29.99 2 Reviews Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Choff Folding Knife Black $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus LK6 Folding Knife $22.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Wedge Folding Knife $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Carbide Edge Folding Knife $36.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Heater II Neck Knife The others that I've seen have the later arched tang stamp. If you dont have both the repro and original side by side, you might not be able to tell the difference sometimes. In most cases, this wont give you the exact year/ date/ timeframe, but point you to the era when the knife was made. Your email address will not be published. PS If you buy the knife today, the seller might include a newer sheath just to promote better knife safety for you. It is knives like these that make some people on the outside question why Case knives are so expensive when they are just a great value for their money. Currently, the military-grade Air Force Survival Knife is only manufactured and sold by the Ontario Knife Company. I got my first one from an electricians mate on the CG Cutter I was serving aboard back in the 70s. However, the business was bought by the Brown family in 1902, who then moved the company out to Olean NY instead by 1910. Dustin- Great information! I have no idea how long it had been sitting there. That is some inspirational stuff. Besides showing you how to date a Camillus knife properly, I also give some tips to avoid falling into the fake vintage Camillus knife scam. https://prc68.com/I/OneManLifeRaft.html#Knife. Phillip; The sheath shall be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-271, The sheath leather shall be 8/64-inch-thick. Adolph Kastor, the founder of the Camillus cutlery company, came to the U.S.A at the age of 14. bone and 1466 dozen made in stagged Rosewood. Made in September 1941. The Air Force Survival Knife was introduced to the commercial market by Marble after not being awarded the DoD contract to supply the new survival knife to the military. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). The first bullet point was in an initial version of the article. The dummy cord is tied on a hole at the blade guard and then it is sewn in the green pouch. Instead, he sought out a smaller cutlery brand in Camillus and joined the management team. Ive read reviews that claim the new ones (from Ontario) are not as good. This was one of with Rosewood grips. However, the registrations for all registered products containing salicylanilide as an active ingredient have been canceled. surely wasn't in Vietnam unless it was with a tourist. Step 2: Read the markings You could find either the USMC or USN MK2 marking on the knife. Thick blade and two piece rivets were replaced with a thinner If I am honest, theyre not the only ones to make this mistake. Yes the Vietnam War lasted until 1975 but the majority of US combat
I know how well "Orvet" makes customs. It is a Japanese made copy of the US Air Force Survival knife and was sold through the US military exchanges. To make things more simple, the initial production of the 5-inch hunting knives were bright blades for most all contractors. Ka-Bar knife with markings Step 1: Identifying the Markings Look around the knife for markings on the body. That stamp is different than the one used earlier. companies to design the Para knife. Is this unusual? Thanks for your work. As a result, the Ontario Knife Company developed a prototype based on the 1957 design that was first submitted by Marble. I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. Probably not a Pro-Tec pointed dagger, but it's real novel. Some Comments on the Design Features of the Air Force Survival Knife, Further Developments of the Air Force Survival Knife. Is it a genuine vintage or merely a reproduction? HiI'm new to the site and am trying to identify a knife my daughter found yesterday. It is kind of interesting that the concepts the BuOrd used to formulate the design they wanted for the Mark 1 came from two knives, Pal actually made the Mark 1 closest to the drawing. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. Very creative, one of the nicer sites I have seen today. in the handle grip from the looks of it. The blade design is different then the At the time of sale, the business was profitable but the new buyer ran it into the ground once again. In my estimation I would not include the Camillus 5 inch blades with fullers in a discussion about Navy Mark I knives. The genesis of the Air Force Survival Knife goes back to the 1950s at the dawn of the jet age. This knife has been around for many years. Its total length is 292mm (11 5/8 inches). Eventually the U.S. Navy adopted the knife after failures on the Mark 1 and renamed it the U.S. Navy Mark 2. Saunders knives; and a few more knives under contract. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex If you happen to have, Read More How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice)Continue, If you have spent some time here before, then we have dated some pretty amazing knives together. Im interested in finding out about what I believe is not a USAF Pilot Survival Knife, but may in fact be an Asian made imitation. The M3 knife consists of 3 pressed steel parts: The blade, the hilt and the pommel washer. Entertaining and informing. US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY What is interesting is the knife is called an Air force pilot survival knife. I've heard arguments on both sides, but as of yet I'd be uncomfortable moving the positions beyond the level of opinion. It does, however, have a small Japan stamped in the blade at the hilt. From DIY approaches to unconventional models and even taking the knife to experts, one of these methods will get you a proper timeline of your knife. This initial fabrication met the basic outlined requirements what the Navy wanted, with the approval of the drawing, we then begin to see the application of the applied property marks which are simply USN on the ricasso. It was made from a spring off a model T. The sheath was made from a leather belt off a steam tractor. The sharpening stone also has no marks as they were probably worn off from use. COStraight lineOLEAN, N.Y, and USA.1912 1920UNION CUTLERY CO.Straight lineOLEAN, N. Y1912 1930UNIONRound rectangular boxNil1914 1926KEENWELL CUT COStraight lineOLEAN, N. Y1920 1930KEENWELL CUT COStraight lineOLEAN, N.Y; Ka-Bar; Model number1928 1932KA-BARStraight lineUSA`1930 1940OLCUTStraight lineStainless Steel; or UNION CUT CO. & OLEAN, N. Y1935 1945KabarStraight lineUnfilled star1950 1970. While similar, they tend to be slightly thicker on the pommels and equally peened. this one, it should be a fantastic story to be uncovered one day. Hi. A German himself, and having spent enough time in the U.S.A. to know the market landscape, this business venture was not difficult for him. Here is an image of my fullered 5 inch blade next to the saber ground blade knife. I recently bought a new Ontario that has 3-11 on the pommel (March 2011 I reckon). ). I appreciate the vote of confidence . But your saying the WW2 knives dont have pins at all?, just peened? Both have leather grips. If you, Read More How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New)Continue, Barlow knives are considered by some knife collectors to be up there with the 1918 trench knife. Thus, finding ways of reducing the bulk of the Aviation Life Support Equipment (ALSE) assisted in the overall weight considerations for flying. [emailprotected], Thanks for letting me know that, Murphy. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. 5684 S50: Dated 8/21/1945 this design uses the Mark 2 blade, Wonderful read! The design was not adopted. 5684: This is the WW II USMC blade marked knife in the for great photos and full text on telling them
Thanks for sharing. Many thanks! room when the company was auctioned off. Before you go dating your ka-bar knife, I think you might want to know some of the challenges that you could encounter, and why. The bit telltale difference is the sharpened false edge. MK2 on the other. View all posts by Major Hykr. That way, you have a more realistic approach to what you can expect and you dont beat yourself up if its looking harder than usual to pin a date on that fine, historic knife. and the empty draws. by Colonel666 Sun May 26, 2013 1:43 am, Post St Louis with Indian Trail grooved bone and large rivets. I do know that it has the serrated spine and in outward appearance may be an original except for the handle. I just bought this knife from Ontario Knife Company. Some shady knife enthusiasts might want to get the knife from you at a steal price or in a swap deal for something else. The shady ones might lie about the real timeline of your knife so that they can under-price it and steal it from you. I hope this is the right place to make this post.sorry if not. Not an easy knife to resharpen and the very tip was prone to breaking off. We place the WW II era
Since the knife was not making it to only American troops but the allies, the demand was genuinely high. The knife was probably modified by a previous owner. The survival machete is great. My name is Steve and i live in Australia..I have recently started collecting knives from the Vietnam era..I just purchased 1 on ebay but the more i try to confirm the sellers claim the more i become frustrated and confusedplease help me. survival kit knife with straight line marking. Any review of World War II military fixed blades must include several examples of Western knives. I dont believe they were pinned in that era. An unmarked prototype hunter with Stagged Rosewood and Quality knives and tools with lowest prices. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. Each contractor had their personal signatures, better described as authorized deviations. Most of the knives shown I have factory documentation on from the Glen, Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. the Camillus designs submitted for testing. Otherwise, the serial number might not be able to do so much for you. Did Camillus Make Other Brands Knives on Contract? Later, after service members began returning from Vietnam, the military-grade issued knives began to be seen on the market. large bakelite pommel and multiple spacers. USMC Raider reproduction with fine pewter handle. Marble produced several thousand knives for field testing and delivered them to the U.S. Air Force between 1957-1959. Some companies marked them and some did not. If the Marines had a Para knife I find no marks on it but it was well used with rust stains. This happens quite often. Interesting article. All of these make the recipe for a truly great knife that deserves our attention. unknown variant like the Marbles above. Furthermore, standardization of equipment reduces costs upon the logistical system. The M3 trench knife or M3 fighting knife was an American military combat knife first issued in March 1943. Thanks for filling in the blanks. At the end of the war, the decision to ramp up capacity paid off as Camillus could now make its knives and still churn others out under contract. Its blade is double-edged and has a length of 170mm (6 11/16 inches). We see this one constantly on sale as a "Vietnam
As originally designed it had a 6", saw back blade. That same year, the Marble-Arms Corporation (now known as Marbles) began work on designing their prototype for the survival knife based on the government specifications. Required fields are marked *. Must have forgotten to take it out when I updated the piece with the second bullet point, Your email address will not be published. Hello, Some had been made before the time, and they dont have the exact specs as above. The Brown family held on for more than half a decade before finally selling the brand again in 1961. Both have black plastic pommel. Thanks for the info major. It is marked just U.S.N. The rarest USMC knife in camillus knife identification. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short], Re: Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short]. This knife was popular during the second world war and I will assume that so are the people who knew a lot about it. Consequently, the knife blade being reduced from six inches to five inches allowed it to retain some of the qualities necessary to carry out survival tasks, but small enough that it could be easily stowed on an aircrewmans vest without causing interference for aircrews trying to carry out their duties while flying. oldjunkagain. The primary document that describes the various features of the Air Force Survival Knife is Military Specification MIL-K-8662 (16 October 1953). So, whats unique about the history of the Camillus knives? Did you recently find a Camillus knife, and youd like to know what era it came from? business. Here are some links to other threads touching on this subject. These bayonets are very similar to the originals so you need to check
Klein knives are clear vintages, and theyre one of those knives that went to the war. qualified technician to remove the surface rust and dirt on them. In 1962, the knife was modified by reducing the blade to 5" in length. Now that you have established the ka-bar knife and got the markings to know what kind of issue it is, how about knowing if it is a WW2 knife or not? In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). has the Mark 2 pommel not the M3 version. The condition of the knife is worn, but otherwise good. Tom said that the Government contract was cancelled in 1984. The intended use of the knife is for pilots as required in survival situations. I cant glean a date of manufacture from the stamp. As the development and testing process began to take shape, updates to the original specification documents were published. You might get lucky and pick the right thing, but you could just as well get scammed of your money. You are using an out of date browser. Production date date 3/25/1943. factory reference collection. The stamping was kind of inconsistent from my research. Like every other knife Ive dated, the Camillus knives are challenging in their way. Among the "bright" finished knives you will find a variance. This is an early Marbles design with a Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. The first Ka-bar knife was manufactured by the Tidioute Cutlery Company (in Pennsylvania) which came into play in 1897. The leather will be treated with para-nitrophenol fungicide. Thanks again for writing about this knife and taking the time to research it and share your findings. It appears that in 2006, Ontario Knife Company became the current vendor to the DoD of the Jet Pilot Survival Knife under the National Stock Number (NSN): 7340-00-098-4327. quick. the markings are all the same and in the same place as the originals. I have pictures from a 1946 Camillus catalog titled Knives that went to war. Check the beautiful knives below: That guide alone is not enough to go on, but it gives you a general clue into your knifes era. Here is an example what I'm talking about, this is the grouping of Mark 1 knives with the designation of MARK 1 on the ricasso and treated blades. This is a testimony to the ingenuity of the design team that developed the knife at the Marbles company. I have little knowledge on the Use of it in Vietnam, that said, I cant find much details. Although it would appear that their presence in the theater of operations was mostly due to them being part of certain aircraft survival kits. Possibly, some may have had one issued to them while serving in the military. That said, I did cut down a Christmas tree (about 3-4 inches in diameter once). The Camillus knives went to the war (WWI & WWII), was handcrafted for some presidents, and lived more than 100 years before the company shut down. Engineers. by jerryd6818 Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:06 am, Return to Camillus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. However, there is not enough information in the literature to determine with certainty the purpose of the holes. like the original and with a little bit of use can be made to look old real
Moreover, the requirement for having a standard survival knife for pilots and aircrews across the DoD was due to economic considerations and budgeting constraints at the time which fostered standardization across the military services. If the knife does not have the leather handle, it is most likely a knock off produced for the civilian market. of Tom Williams, Camillus factory historian, I have assembled the This causes a lot of confusion, Tyler, but the pommel peen is a better method to determine the WW2 knife. Way cool! The U.S. Defense Department published to private industry requirements for a standardized fixed blade knife to issue to pilots and aircrews of the various service branches. Another Here are some ways to identify a fake Camillus knife: The tang stamps are all over the place; There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; The font is a bit off; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife) Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor SKIP. Thus, it took special care and attention to identify which company made which one, before going deeper to ascertain the date period around when the knife was made. While some other companies have taken over the design and started to make modern versions, there is simply nothing like the older units that first came out under the original Klaas company. Well I got my first one from and Army Helicopter pilot in Germany 1963. Need help identifying camillus knife Riley12 Apr 16, 2014 Riley12 Guide Joined Jun 27, 2013 Messages 1,053 Likes 263 Location Florida Apr 16, 2014 #1 I bought this knife today, and was told it's a naval survival knife, because of the blue in the bottom, but it doesn't look like the naval survival knives. However, because of Marbles premature manufacturing of the knife before it was awarded a government contract, the rest of the world gained the privilege to own this knife. Those who do not currently own one should purchase one. this out before you buy. Thank you, this is a very informative treatise on this knife. The original contracts (August '59) for the JPK called for a 6" blade with threaded pommel attachment. A similar issue occurs when dating the Kinfolks knife, but the chances of that error are slim. With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. hunting knife. It is currently still in inventory with the DoD through the GSA. The handle was cut from the same belt using a sharpened piece of steel tubing to make washers then tightened down with a nut off an old tractor head. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. The similarities to Mark I knives are obvious, but they were procured and manufactured under different contracts and specifications. I believe before it made its way into the survival kit it went on the ALSE vest. Mine is a well-worn obviously military example, with a grey pommel top and worn leather sheath with steel tip. As such, finding a definitive history of the development and procurement of this knife is difficult to reconstruct. with the government to sell the design and know how to make the knife. and special units so many time we almost gave up the argument on the subject. The former refers to the knife being a normal US army fighting knife, while the latter identifies the Ka-bar knives issued to the US Navy. Do you have any additional information on what the 6-89 is and how it fits in the history. Major Hykr is my blog site to chronicle my hiking and backpacking experiences. Skip, I'm not sure that we can or can not label either of those knives as genuine Mark 1's. Orig. Note the scabbards with and without sheet
The 1954 update calls for the knife to have a sharpened clip point blade and an additional rivet to the sheath. Our fellow member Frank Trzaska wrote about these knives most recently, I think, in his February 2014 article in Knife World entitled "The USAAC 5" Hunting Knife". Additionally, the jet age in military aviation increased the number of gear pilots and aircrews had to carry on their flights. with their design. Sears Roebucks in 9/26/1941. Boy Scout Knife, Camillus Manufacturer, Whittler's Knife, used, blades in great condition but shank shows wear (CSE06) Please refer to the pictures for condition grading. Camillus was also notorious for sometimes mixing up the tang stamps. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. Find out more below. USMC next to the current repro which graphically shows the difference. contracts. The latest dated pommel stamped Camillus 5733 is 3-1985. Im not a fan of social media and dont use it. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. We have been told these knives were carried by various elite
There are many variables to take into consideration and a general genealogy of dating can be made with Mark 1 knives. The knife went through a couple of different vendors over its life cycle. I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. As with many uses of military equipment, service members use considerable ingenuity in the field when employing their equipment and therefore, the use of the holes in the blade guard for cordage lashing points may have been a field expedient use of the knife rather than as an intentionally designed purpose. by carrmillus Thu May 30, 2013 3:57 pm, Post When speaking with them, make sure youre clear that youre not looking to sell. Keep up the great work. This is the early AAC blade and solid spun rivets for the military. (Author's note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II's than anyone else, though the Marines still called the Camillus-designed Mark II knife "the Ka-Bar.") The New-and-Improved Camillus M3 In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. current model. If you send me your email address I can send you photos. larger pommel version we all know. It is WW II era and dual tang marked and etched. I believe youre more interested in dating the vintage ones, though, so the other era guides on that list are best suited to your needs. I would say its one of the best knives ever! It was later made with an etch on the blade "Sportsman" It was common for everything in a survival vest to have a lanyard. That latest acquisition also had a sheath lacking the metal back and tip of the sheath, but appears original in all respects. The blade is very sharp but has surface deterioration and the guard seems rather dull. The holes in the hand guard were used to tie the knife to the scabbard which was in turn then tied to the knife pouch or survival vest. Both have leather grips. Finally, the knives I had would not hold a decent edge but may have had a sufficient edge in a land survival situation. Any opinions? In the early 2000s, the U.S. Army published requirements to private industry for an aviation survival knife to replace the aging Air Force Survival Knife. Another Kent with stagged Rosewood, brass pins and etched. If you have some method to receive photos, let me know and Ill forward the photos. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, stagged Rosewood with brass pins Same as above but handle more rounded. The table below shows you different tang stamp designs and when they were circulated.Tang StampDescriptionYear/ Era3-line arch stamp1902-19154-line straight stamp with yearFeatures year of manufacture3-line straight stamp1916 the 1930s4-line straight stampThe 1930s mid-19453-line; non-italic fonts; short underline1946 19503-line; non-italic, full underline; no dots (USA., not U.S.A.)1960 the 1970s3-line stamp; full underline; dotted U.S.A.; italicsThe 1970s 1980s3-line stamp; dotted U.S.A.; mixed caps1989 2007Camillus Knife Tang Stamps and their Eras. One Side of the blade should have the Camillus Knife brand and the identification should have the blade number. He was a family friend! Thanks! The WW II era knife has a long sweeping false edge while the current
SKIP. While researching this knife I discovered that Camillus, the same manufacturer as the iconic Kabar fighting knife, was the main producer of these knives. It has a decent leather scabbard with no hole in the tip and leather cords intact, as well as the stone with similar markings as others Ive seen. By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. It used to be a standard piece of gear for anyone, including backpackers, who was a serious outdoorsman and wilderness adventurers back in the 1970s and 1980s, before the Rambo movies made popular the Rambo-type survival knife. Can't recall seeing. If it were possible to convert you surely would be able to! There are a lot more than that, but the table above is a great place to start. Thus, this knife became obsolete for its original intended use when the majority of military aircraft incorporated composite materials. The cutting blade is to be 5 1/8 inches long and 3/16 inches thick. 27. So, as stated earlier, the archives of Marble or the DoD may reveal conclusively if the reason for the holes in the handguard. edge. Some extremely valid points! The sharpening stone shall be fabricated from silicon carbide, grain size 280, hardness P, vitrified bond. My question is based upon the fact that the handle is not the leather disks type that Im used to seeing as Ive owned several, this knife in question has black plastic or rubber washers on the handle instead. In all other ways, it totally resembles the pilots survival knife distributed to the military in the 1950s. They may allow you to send it to them to get refurbished. As a further development on the Air Force Survival Knife, the Ontario Knife Company offers a second-generation civilian version of the knife in its Special Purpose SP series of knives. 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. Christopher, How to Date a Camillus Knife Effectively (1902 2007), How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods), How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice), How to Date a Cattaraugus Knife (5 Methods Explained), How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods), How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New), How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods). Camillus Factory still shot courtesy of Tom Williams showing
Knife. They adopted the single pin December 15, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS. It was probably stashed there by some kid whose dad was a Navy pilot. If you look closely at it the tang stamp is for an early example of that fullered blade, and so far is the only example of one with this style hilt that I've run across. brass rivets, Another Kent with stagged bone and small brass domed The post-1962 knives were produced by the Camillus Cutlery Company and Milpar during the Vietnam Era. . Otherwise, it would be much easier to go through their files to find out which Ka-bar knives were made when. This is it. Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. Still,, Read More How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods)Continue, The kissing crane knives are some of the most well-made, long-lasting, and historical knives that we can still find around today. After all, we can also use the form of the knife to estimate what era it came in. 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