The Bible can be twisted in many ways. The gospel of the kingdom is not just salvation, that is not the FULL gospel. Heaven invades the Earth. They both are post-millennial in their eschatology; that is, Christ will return after the earth is made righteous by the church. Dear Pastor ,i thank God for u and yr Church . I am far from perfect. > This kind of spirit is mentioned in the book of Acts. For men to speak of doing that before the judgment of this earth is spiritually arrogant. It is embraced and taught in part or whole by the National and World Council of Churches, Jim Wallis, Tony Campolo, Earl Paulk, Bob Weiner, John Wimber, James Robison (who is called the Presidents pastor). Mother Teresa, who selflessly took care of 40,000 derelicts in Calcutta, basically stopped her ministry to them by providing them a clean bed and comfort. As it says in 2 Timothy 2:3, "For . Jesus' most challenging words for those who embrace the Prosperity Gospel are STILL true, yet mostly ignored, "Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." (Lk 18: 25) To be clear, Jesus is not so concerned about a 6-figure income -when used for blessing the poor. I am not going to claim to have any knowledge on the subject because I have never experienced it. Im part of the founders of my church so Im very worry! But he was stoned. drunken bartender Godaholics I guess you need to try to change and side track this debate with insults to me and a different topic, just like you did in the other thread about The People of the Book. The Bible provides the answers: For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things (Philippians 3:18-19). His glory must cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. stigmata (blood, oil, gold dust on hands) Listed below is a viral parody of 10 popular preaching styles of black pastors along with some closely matched examples of popular preachers from American pulpits. Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. I respect that so much! I have been in churches influenced by that B J phenomenon. Together with him comes pastor Bill Johnson from Bethel Church in the US, who teachers Kingdom Now theology. These are men who walk in falsehood, misusing his name, being deceived to accept a false Holy Spirit. snorting dust from the tomb of Jesus Christ I just dont want others to think it is a sin to be rich. glory hose to heaven I have to assume you are listening to a different Bill Johnson from a different Bethel Church! Eating a spiritual meal is like eating Fish. > of the way that there step mother treat them and they decide to go on the Life of Purpose Prayer. And they do not allow that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach. People who loose control in Holy laughter have been filled with a false Holy Spirit, that comes from a the Kundalini cult within Hinduism. No more disease, war, poverty, AIDS, global warming, etc. The Bible has plenty of warnings against miracles workers, and those who follow such events, or even demands to see such things as a foundation of their faith. People are not permitted to jugde betweeen right and wrong, true and false, real and conunterfaith. Its easy to be fooled by such. The Bible says its the children of the devil, who builds his kingdom on Earth. Than it will be impossible to debate with you. Below will be an on-going, exhaustive, list of pastors and teachers of the Christian faith who have either fake degrees or try to pass off honorary degrees as earned degrees. NOW faith is, NOW is the day of SALVATION. 1. On the other hand I have seen Johnsons intentions misconstrued by naysayers here and elsewhere by applying emphasis and contextual distortion. . You said it is a sin to remain rich. Kingdom Now teaching has parts of the gospel, but without the whole gospel, meaning repentance and faith (Mark 1:14-15), it shifts to an "us-we" focus. I have heard a number of Bills teachings and always found them to be interesting and sometimes exciting interpretings of scripture. I think its interesting how God created both angels and birds and that the scientist tried to explain away the possibility of the feathers being from angels when God created them both! Since the false teachers of the Toronto Movement is door openers for Johnson, Do I have the right to close my door for such people? They promise interest of 30, 50 and 100 per cent. Matthew 13:25 loaded with the revelation beer of heaven toking the Ghost I too would rather enter the Kingdom of Heaven poor, then to even take a chance of loosing my salvation by being rich. That takes courage. As a child in the 1960s I attended a non charismatic church where any faith I had withered on the vine. God, in doing a creative miracle such as that would be for the purpose of glorifying Himself and giving revelation of His love power to His bride. Now let me tell you what these false teachers or pastors . i greet you in the name of our lord jesus christ,a happy- for you brother who have stand on faith,am pastor moses Adie pastoring in the slums of kibera kenya i am interested exchage program with you man of God. But Im happy, because Jesus Christ has saved me from my sins. Come out of the worldly systems, which are the product of mankinds imagination, especially the religious systems. THEREFORE HE HAS REJECTED YOU FROM BEING KINGS AND PRIESTS. smoking the Holy Spirit crack pipe We can of course mix a lot of verses together, and make it fit as a defense of our piles of cash and properties.. I guess from the Pope to pastor Bill Johnson. False belief systems within the hyper-Charismatic movement: Word of Faith Yes, we should discern, but we should do so cautiously, not condemning things just because they make is feel uncomfortable. New Jerusalem Church A.A. Allen A.R. I love you all, and am anxious to see you in heaven someday! transporting in the Spirit I love the gospel of Jesus Christ. You should be more careful in what you say Jesus says. He betrayed God and his wife. smoking the Holy Spirit crack pipe in Papas pleasureland Jesus demonstrated the Kingdom of heaven on earth wherever He went. How do I remain friends and reject this teaching. 1. The Norwegian Christian Daily has quoted Johnson saying. LTRP Note: The following letter to the editor from a Lighthouse Trails reader raises valid concerns about circumstances surrounding the Asbury revival. While Asbury University personnel and numerous secular and religious media outlets say that the revival is pure, unplanned, organic, and unexpected, it turns out an NAR/IHOP*-connected group had been planning a revival event [Read more] Pensacola Outpouring I understand what the bible teaches about honor, but where are the passages about creating a culture? And if the Jews can live like this, surely should evangelical Christians. jacked up on Jeebah immersing into electric solitude Its really sad to read. The problem with many Christians, Is that they do not take the Messiah seriously. The revival preceded a great assault from the atheistic authorities. And as The Messiah was a servant of The Only True GOD, so also His Brethren are servants of The Only True GOD.. The Bible does not encourage such behavior nor does approve people with such ugly attitude: liar, greedy, rascal, low class behavior and having a narrate for threats at the police archives. Hello. T. D. Jakes Program: Triumph Over Trials, The Potter's Touch with T.D. whacked-out on Jesus Receive many Christian greetings in the most precious name of our Lord and savior Jesus. William Booth. Do they not blaspheme the fair name by which you have been called? If were not experiencing joy and real freedom when Jesus has paid the ultimate price for us, set us free from sin, restored us spiritually and physically, sealed us with the Holy Spirit, and repaired our relationship with the father, and declared us righteous apart from the law that requires works then maybe theres a problem. Throughout the ages, blasphemers have come from all walks of life, races, and religious belief systems. A: Doug Addison (In Light Connection), Che Ahn (Harvest Rock Church), Rory and Wendy Alec (God.TV), Beth Alves (Intercessors International), Joni Ames (A.C.T.S. Something to reflect on. LSFG. The assemblies of God in Zimbabwe has many churches in the rural areas and have been offered vehicle by transport aid in However we do need to have the flesh dealt with not ignored and told our sinful flesh is actually godly. See https://kingdommessages1000.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/deception-in-the-church-and-the-answer-against-it/. A theology that says, God is giving you that sickness to teach you something, and in the same breath says, healing, and miracles today are solely of the devil, makes God out to be the bad guy and the devil the one with all the power. The good news about the Good news is that people are still being healed, delivered and blessed with every blessing of Abraham. , I am So Happy to see you /, These groups ALL embrace the Dominionist theology (which is a terrible distortion of Biblical Truth) also known as Kingdom Now. Once again, Come out from among those who are destroying Creation and perverting that which is Spirit. It speaks about a global transformation ..there is one coming. Let go of what ties you down to this earth Gerda, for the leader of this world is satan. caught up in the ecstatic realm I complete agree. Salvation moves one from the kingdom of sin to the Kingdom Now of Christ on earth. Home to a better place, home to the Eternal Kingdom in Heaven. High Priest of bliss According to my understanding this is not only wrong but setting up an expectation for Reigning that is not possile and secondly for a person to be who is to reign like Christ does not need to be holy as this movement hates with a passion the process of sanctification I have spoken with several of the churches under this teaching and spent months talking to Bills people on what constitutes salvation and have been informed that repentance is not needed for salvation and that if you not utube, the new man in Christ is in fact the new flesh. One day it will show for sure what is what, and who is who. This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Kindly, can you work with us & support us build churches for new believers in mumias, kenya. The Catch the fire movement can be better described as a Catch the demon movement, destroying or leading Churches into submission of deceptive spirits, like the Kundalini spirit. Paul testified, The Only True GOD is The HEAD of The Messiah, The Messiah is The Head of the man, and the man is the head of the woman. How could I tell someone who used to struggle with homosexuality and had been set free and redeemed all in the name of Jesus that he should probably keep the laughter and tears to a minimum? I am not going to claim to have any knowledge on the subject because I have never experienced it. > street,other kids get to street because young girls produce when still in Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.. Miracles do take place today, but discernment is needed. Please do not write long comments, but be brief, and take one point at the time. All over the World apostles and prophets are speaking about the manifestation of the Kingdom of God on the EARTH as IT IS IN HEAVEN. It seems that neither is christian his father Arne Gjervoldstad ,all his positions like a rektor of Filadelfia -missionary to Kenya elder or team elder- cannot make him a christian- actually its like it says in Titus 1:16. God has given us power to cast out demons, heal the sick and raise the dead. Jesus is the true source of beer, vodka, and weed The sum of what Bill Johnson teaches is not truth, and therefore it can not set people free rather it adds a heavier yoke of spiritual bondage on their shoulders. What kind of authority do you say this with? Godka Holy Spirits However, I believe you will read kindly and you will comment or respond referring to your experience and knowledge. And that's beside the specific topic of friendship cited earlier. Please do not be insulted by everyone that do not agree with you. Satan can only make counterfeits of what God does but he most certainly cannot emulate Gods power. Any riches he preached was the joy of knowing God and living with a constantly renewed mind just as the bible teaches. Kingdom Now theology states that Satan has ruled the world since the fall of Adam and Eve from Eden. She kept this up for many days. While this person has no idea of the Bible and at the same time has aggressive displays of a mobster. Yes, there are three people I would like to meet face to face. Moses is another example of a man that refused to live like a King on Earth. He pleaded with the minister that the Spirit had urged him to go to him and beg him to stop opposing God and grieving His Holy Spirit. You have basically to give up all the fleshy desires, and follow Him. > Do you have any knowledge about gnostisism, and the copies of Christ that have been preached in the past? Holy Ghost bartender hurricane of the Spirit He baptized people in the name of Father, son and BAM. Jesus the Messiah did not recognize them. Holy Ghost pusher Its a spirit of white magic, a money catching spirit. And as stated, woman is the strongest thing of this world. Restoration Movement It is foolish worldliness to gain earthly power to build His kingdom. We don't see that God ever commanded the Church to take charge of and revamp society. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name [Jesus Christ] under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Your Comment: I guess you should pluck out your eyes and cut off your hands too? Because of them hundreds of thousands are being saved, healed and set free. I guess I have. My citizenship is in Heaven, and the true church is a rescue operation to save people from the false Kingdom builders. The post Hard Lessons in Discernment appeared first on Lighthouse Trails Research Project. Kingdom Now hammered in the glory The Pope and his Church, surely believe I am an heretic too. The Savior was on earthwhat a time like no other. The good Things that come along in the teachings i keep and the Bad Things i throw Away. There has been many disputes over things that are not related to salvation, but people have been treated as non believers. As for all of the comments about strange manifestations of the Holy Spirit like laughter and shaking, Im sure that there are Christians who fake these things and I do believe that there are demonic spirits that can take control of people and produce strange manifestations. God does not bring punishment in form of natural calamities, storms, sickness and problems. So many other streams both whithin christendom and without move in this same direction, of human divinity, and the discovery of our true identity and such. They bend over backward to be friends with the community, not condemn, not judge, not criticise, are sure to tolerate sinful behaviours-but dont require members to necessarily be born again. taking power hits off the baby Jesus (JDS). Also called religious spirits. -Chris. Benny Hinn ($40 million) Benny is an Israeli speaker, televangelist, and speaker. the real gospel, not the do-it-yourself kind, inhaling the Holy Ghost See how the flowers of the field grow. But when Jesus comes back, many claimed to be born-agains will get the ultimate shock of their life. If you cannot see that BJ teaches falsehood, then at least you should be worried about the friends he keeps! God of the Bible can not do everything. God is reigning and His Kingdom is in place as it always has been. And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven (Revelation 13:6). Only the Pharisees presented them selves as perfect. Desire heavenly, eternal things. Read also. it seems like you may be throwing hate around where some grace would suffice.. You do not have to listen to me. We Need to discern the Message by the Messanger, the Message and the fruits The Evil one doesnt want anybody to get saved! In Kundalini yoga, the light received when the serpent has slithered up the spine, to the crown chakra, is supposed to give you an insight into your own divinity, and into a sense of at-one-ment whith everything. Jesus trip As I read through the article on the link you sent me, I found it interesting how they sent one of the feathers to a science lab for analysis. Another Hindu spirit that moves in the circles of prosperity gospel pastors, is the spirit of Laxmi. drink with the fat Friars False prophet deceiver. The called out ones are not adulterers and adulteresses, they are not friends of this wicked, evil world, they do not fornicate with the god of this world for they know that to be a friend of this world is to be the enemy of The Only True GOD. They are at war against the evil spirits that possess those who are of this world. Amen that is dominion, I dont care what bill johnson preach, i have no connection with him either, but i preach the gospel of the Kingdom. shaking uncontrollably Matthew 12:24 The church uses military imagery or language. I can tell your passionate about this post. You need to read the Word of God and what is says concerning the Kingdom of God. I am assuming that wherever Bill Johnson travels and teaches, he is invited there to do so by people who know him and his background. Birthplace: Noyon, France. There is even a testimony of a church that was struggling to pay off their building, they cried out to God for a miracle and soon after they found gems that came out of no where. The oracles they gave you were false and misleading, Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it. I have never heard any of these types of assertions or anything near them in the several hours of Bill Johnson I have listened to. When Pentecostal Christian pastors allow this kind of wolfs in sheep clouding to enter into their Churches, they will experience one of two likely futures: A new season of worldliness and division, caused by the spiritual death of its leadership. We are not to strive for political power, worldly power. Those inside the network you are condemning also refute the prosperity gospel. Greetings to you in the Mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ. See if people are saved, see if they are healed, check if the love the word of God more after hearing them speak, check if they seek God even more afterwards, see if their love for Jesus grows, see if their burden for the lost increases. By David Dombrowski Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of [Read more] shot glass filled with streams of living water feast on the flesh of Jesus Please brother, I am concerned for you because I have read Jesus words about holding the children away from the kingdom of heaven (Mt 18) and some people you mention here and that you critizise really bring a lot of people in to the Kingsom of Heaven. Blessing of Abraham children of the Bible says Its the children of the way that there step treat. 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